We discussed the ways you can help Haiti — even if you don’t have a job. Do you want to talk about Pat Robertson and his astute observations of the French, Haiti, and the Devil?
Because I totally want to hear what you think about it.
Napolean the Third, or whatever, got together with the devil and cursed the Haitians. That’s what you get when you involve yourself with cheese-eating surrender monkeys. You get dictators and earthquakes.
Stay classy, Pat Robertson.
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Why does it come as any surprise what Robertson says?
On 9/13/01, he agreed with Falwell that the ACLU was to blame for the attacks on America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I ….shudder)
He linked the Hurricane Katrina to legalized abortion (http://mediamatters.org/research/200509130004#robertson)
He hasn’t found a tragedy that he couldn’t exploit.
Par for the course.
I am appalled that Pat Robertson still has the opportunity and audience to spew his vitriolic bigotry around the globe. My theological differences aside, there is absolutely no way that that type of hatred is at all walking the path of loving your neighbor as yourself.
Also — I am amazed when people look at the American Revolution and call it liberty, but look at minority revolutions against colonization or even just for basic civil rights and call it a deal with the devil or mutiny or anything less than the simple fight to be free.
Pat Robertson is a clown and has been for quite some time. There pretty much is nothing else to say about him and his views. Rather than give a clown the satisfaction of being talked about, I’d rather talk about the upcoming NFL playoff games this weekend…now that’s something of interest!
Slavery is Christian? and overthrowing Haitian French rulers who enslaved and destroyed African families is “a pact with the devil”?…sounds like Pat is providing moral support/justification to organized religion that oppresses as long as its calls itself “Christian”…smells a lot like what we hear from the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden in the name of their radicalized version of Islam.
To anyone who calls themselves Christian (and I call myself Christian), please send your money to the RedCross…they will actually use it to help Haiti!
Galatians 6:7
“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
Karma, Pat. Karma.
I think Pat Robertson is a piece of $#!+. It is really sad that people listen to what he as to say. I feel sorry for those people.
All I can say is this. (Well I could say more but I would go on for the whole weekend so I will keep it short.) It takes one devil to recognize another. Pat needs to look in the mirror. I watch too much Buffy and Millennium.
It’s Pat Robertson talking – what more do you need to know?
It’s really quite disgusting….these people have been through alot in their history- not to mention in recent years alone they’ve had to suffer through 3 big hurricanes and now this! No one knows why these things happen, and they’re forces of nature that can’t be controlled.
What they need now is aid and compassion- not someone wagging a finger at them and telling the world this load of nonsense…
Pat Robertson is entitled to his opinion in America, and he is even entitled to express his opinion without unnecessary government intervention, a la the First Amendment. Put a video out on You Tube? Go for it, Pat.
What he is NOT entitled to under our governmental system is to have anyone give a crap about what he says. The fact that he has a video being played over and over again on the news programs (at least I presume it is – I don’t watch television and I first saw this video on this blog) is the fault of news media decision makers who have decided that what Pat Robertson says is important.
I have several videos on YouTube and no one cares. (Well, maybe @BillBoorman does. A little.) I could stand on my street corner all day long and yell the same ridiculous things about Haiti as Pat Robertson, but I doubt that even my local news media would show up.
So I don’t hate Pat Robertson. I hate the CEO of any ersatrz news program that has replayed that drivel and called it news, because the decisions of their company is their responsibility, and those decisions are why I even know who Pat Robertson is.
Call me crazy, but if I was a GALACTIC SUPER-BEING like Satan, the last thing I’d be interested in would be an island on some remote planet. Doesn’t he have, like, meetings or something?
And if I was God, I’d be tweeting Patty-boy “STFU” already.
Cheek aside, it’s terrible that these fools come out of the woodwork and blame tragedies on the victims, and especially for reasons that make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. In these situations, it’s amazing to see people rise to the values of humility, compassion, and care, and others to degrade themselves into needless finger-wagging and callous indifference.
Pat Robertson believes that the Haitians made a pact with the devil – and he’s still willing to help them in their time of need.
Oh how convienient that PR can identify the cause of the Haitian Earthquake to his vengeful God and remove himself from having any sense of human decency.
Let’s say for example that my father made a pact with the devil. (Oh, like Dad has the devil on speed dial.) And I suffered as a result. Is that would God would want for me? Or would God like me to see the power of God’s redemption?
Quit holding centuries-old grudges, Pat and show these good people the love that Jesus would teach you.
I my post PR= Pat Robertson.
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Thank you! I will be here all week.
I always thought Pat Robertson was the Devil.
In particular, I like how Pat thinks that Africans removed from their homeland, forcibly re-located to an island not of their choosing and enslaved to work on French sugar plantations would have to seek the help of the devil to free themselves. Why, because Pat’s god wanted them to keep toiling away in slavery and wouldn’t help them? You know, since god and satan determine who wins revolutions…
Um, maybe we should blame this on a shift of the tectonic plates in the earth’s crust. And maybe the hurricanes were a natural weather phenomenon. And maybe the island of Hispanola was not the best place for the Spanish and French to colinize because it is in a major hurricane area that is also on a fault line! Maybe these poor people can’t help the fact that this is where their ancestors were brought and now they’ve got to make the best of it…
And in what fantasy land does anyone refer to the Dominican Republic as prosperous and rich? They have been equally devastated by previous earthquakes and hurricanes…
Someone, please ductape his mouth! Or at least take away his microphone.
BTW, Sport Chalet is collecting gently worn shoes to ship to Haiti. So even if you have no cash, you can still clean out your closet.
@jonathanhyland – bahahaha! I bet that’s exactly what Hell looks like – day-long meetings that strictly adhere to Roberts’ Rules, don’t stick to the agenda, and always order catering from the same place. (On a somewhat-related note, Sandman: Season of Mists by Neil Gaiman is a great riff on Hell management – Satan gets tired of running the place and leaves Morpheus in charge, and Morpheus winds up having to deal with all the bureaucracy and politics, including the meetings. Great book.)
@JoanGinsberg – yup, you’re exactly right, the media have a huge part to play in people like PR consistently having a soapbox from which to shout stupid, stupid things. However, you’ve also got to put some of the accountability on audiences – PR gets on the news because when he’s on the news, ratings (and revenue) go up. For whatever reason, people listen PR – either because they think he’s a tool and want to hear what kind of tool-like thing he’s going to say next or because they *shudder* agree with him. Either way, he’s on TV because people demand that he be on tv (i.e., implicitly, by watching whenever he’s on), not just because network execs want to force him on us.
After all, TV networks and producers (of news or entertainment, etc.) are not in the business of providing audiences with content, they’re in the business of selling audiences to advertisers. TV shows aren’t their product, you are.
I’ll preface by saying that Pat Robertson is a huge Tool and gives Christians a bad name…over and over again. But PLEASE, let’s not allow ourselves to be so narrow-minded as to think that this Tool represents most Christians or the church—because he DOES NOT.
I do feel that he represents a segment of evangelical Christians that view “God’s Sovereignty” as being so total in nature that He causes everything—good or bad—to happen…that He is this puppet master of punishment who lifts the veil of protection and lets the Devil punish people whenever they fall away.
As a believer myself, I feel really sorry for people who view God this way, because they must operate in constant fear, or guilt that the bad things that have happened to them were directly (or indirectly) inflicted on them by God. In my opinion, this line of belief operates out of a fear of what cannot be explained within the neat and narrow constructs of who they believe that God is- “We can’t explain evolution, so we’ll just say it’s a lie and that God created the earth in 7, twenty-four hour days.” OR “We have a hard time understanding why bad stuff happens in a world that God created and to people that God loves, so we’ll just say that he caused it to happen as a punishment for transgressions.”
That said there are plenty of believers out there who do not ascribe to this line of thought—that God is either causing everything or else causing nothing at all. I’m pretty sure He’s a tad more complex than that. And Haiti is full of Christian mission organizations that are serving the people there, demonstrating love by meeting practical needs every day; sinners helping sinners. Robertson is missing out on how great a life in faith can really be.
Perhaps the title of this segment should be changed to “F@%k Pat Robertson Friday.” I’m sure he says something revolting often enough to warrant it.
Seriously, he is such a bad person. Are there actually people out there who agree with him?
@sapcedcowgirl there are a lot of sad, scared people out there who have never learned to think critically.
@Alex I applaud when people can find away to have faith without loosing respect for critical thought and science.
Right now– God and Satan are rolling thier eyes saying “Puh-lease– as if–!! Dude— you are such the Barney!!” G & S don’t roll like that, y’know.
It’s just another day in the life of a frustrated old man sensible people don’t listen to or take seriously— but unfortunately, there’s the ridiculously ignorant masses that do.
@Alex – those are the Christians that have God confused with Santa Clause…
“Oooooohhhhhh, you’d better watch out, you’d better not cry, you’d better not pout, I’m tellin you why, God-n-Satan are comin to town!”
I am either too young or too wrapped up in TMZ to know who the hell Pat Robertson is….but now all I know is I hate him.
I spent an hour today looking at pictures of the damage in Haiti….those poor, poor people….
Pat Robertson is an idiot. Who are the people that believe this guy?
I think Pat Robertson is a closet atheist. I mean, if he really believed in God and Satan, would he say this stuff? Anyone who believes in Hell must believe this guy is headed straight there.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1953778_1953776,00.html
Top 10 Robertson Gaffes
I wonder what the CAT scan of his brain looks like. He’s like our very own Kim Jong Ill.
Uh, if Haiti made a pact with the devil, who’s America in with?
‘Scuse me, I gotta go re-stock my emergency shelter.
This thread is awesomesauce! I’m singing “The Wanker Song” to the toon of The Verve’s “Bitter Sweet Symphony”
The 700 Club is just rounded up from 666.
And I’ll close with this: Faith is personal. Religion is politics. Too many people confuse the two.
There are always Pat Robertsons around us – and let’s not forget Rush Limbaugh, who has also brought his usual eloquence (ahem) to the subject of Haiti.
This isn’t even new – it’s why witches were burned! It was the cornerstone of the Spanish Inquisition. Some asshole stirs everything up in the hopes of causing a mass panic and getting people to do what he wants. (Ergo, Pat’s assertion that Hurricane Katrina was not brought on by weather patterns, but by the gays gettin’ it on in New Orleans.)
What baffles me is how many people take those kinds of comments at face value. Is it a lack of education? A devotion to an institution (even if the red flags pop up, as it must for many re: Pat R)? Or is it just easier to hang up one’s brain and have someone else do the thinking?
I’m not trying to diminish religion and spirituality – but Pat R is the dude that Christ was trying to throw out of the temples, not his contemporary or his representative.
I really enjoyed reading this thread…I believe the likes of “Pat R” are still stuck believing in an old testament type of god and haven’t “gotten” the good news they proclaim to be preaching???
I’m far from perfect but after much deep introspection in the nineties basically I had to it was change or die I searched for a solution but I’m greatful and still somewhat surprised even today that inspite of my mindset I found a solution for me which was not all rigidly black and white thinking even though I was coming from that place…more surprise!
What saddens me today but without killing me is the people around me still stuck in the “past”. Friends, co-workers even relatives still struggling under a heavy handed education system with religious ideals thrown in. As an adult going back to adult education to improve my chances in the job market was also very refreshing as I had my own opinions and experiences at this stage and I knew better what I wanted, etc…
My heart goes out to the people of Haiti my fiancee is from Manilla and we went through “hell” together at the time of the floods there a few months ago and her two children and relatives spent a couple of nights clinging to the roof of their house before being rescued and this earthquake is even more of a tragedy…they need all the help they can get not ignorant putdowns and archaic superstitions…
My experience and opinion only!!!
Religion and liberalism are two in the same. Both work towards undermining rationalism and individualism. The religious like Robertson tell us that we are sinners and our destiny is in the hands of some vengeful God. The liberals tell us that we are greedy and our destiny is in the hands of a more intelligent government. So for every crazy that believes in the words of Pat Robertson, there is another one that turns around and votes for a liberal politician. Ugh. Where are the rational individualists that America was built on? Where is John Galt when we need him.
Thanks for posting Laurie. Your comments are awesome as usual. Perhaps the more people that become aware of the nuts out there, the more driven they will become to fight against them and their ignorance.
@Bruno You’ve got your finger on the pulse of idiocracy, here. Ugh.
@Sarah Well said.
@Chris Give us your picks.
@DebExo Thanks for that comment & for putting your faith out there as an example.
@Puter Wait, Christians don’t believe in karma. That’s for poor people, Buddhists, Hindus, and other hippies.
@Glen Well said.
@HR Hooligan I totally don’t want either show but I know what you mean.
@Bev Exactly.
@Karen Amen.
@Joan Whoa, good point.
@Jonathan Blame the victim is something many Americans do well.
@Recruiting Animal Don’t you know? Pat Robertson is all generous & shit. Pact with the devil or not, he’s willing to help.
@Becky HIlarious and fitting.
@Corey You were right.
@Alex I don’t believe in Jesus, but I’m not overtly hostile to people who have faith — except for people like Robertson. That guy needs to meet with some Haitians ASAP.
@SpaceCowGirl Oh that would have been good.
@Matty Sad but true.
@Low I fear Santa more than Satan.
@InkedHR Lucky you. That guy is a loon.
@GingerG Plenty.
@BZ Whoa, that’s borderline conspiratorial. Love it.
@Karen Awesome
@Martha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh_9QhRzJEs
@Christy We made a pact with a China — facilitated by Walmart.
@Stacey Hilarious.
@Robert Good distinction.
@Patrick I wish Pat Robertson would go f–k himself. I wonder, “Is that what Jesus would do?” I think, yes, it is.
@Lupus Thank you for your comment!
How could I forget to link to this? http://www.cbn.com/communitypublic/shake.aspx
In my life I have found that the people who have had more to say about sin & the consequences thereof are the most dangerous.
Everyone white knuckles it when their crazy, old fart relative opens their mouth in public. This crazy old fart has a TV show.
For a second, consider his producer in the booth while Pope Robertson was wrapping French history, slavery, and the Devil up in a bow. They were transfixed by the coming train in utter disbelief. They didn’t even push the “Crazy Pat Bailout” button (you know they have one with him) that immediately changes station format to Amy Grant music videos.
Who’s this idiot and why are we even listening to what he says?
@Alex Well said my friend. I’m a Christian too, and Pat doesn’t represent me or my beliefs of God. I wish he would STFU. (pardon my ‘French’, no pun intended)
BTW, I’m thanking God Pat wasn’t elected president whenever it was he ran.
Incredibly late to the party but I thought I’d let you know that Satan had something to say about this snafu of PR’s.
http://stupidevilbastard.com/2010/01/satans-reply-to-pat-robertson/