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		<title>By: If You&#8217;re Thinking About Grad School&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/mbas-graduate-degrees-not-always-worth-it/#comment-23858</link>
		<dc:creator>If You&#8217;re Thinking About Grad School&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8230;you probably should head on over to PunkRockHR first.  There&#8217;s a great post there today about this, and tons of comments from people who actually hire for a living on whether that MBA is worth it or not.  Check it out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230;you probably should head on over to PunkRockHR first.  There&#8217;s a great post there today about this, and tons of comments from people who actually hire for a living on whether that MBA is worth it or not.  Check it out. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: M. Usman Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/mbas-graduate-degrees-not-always-worth-it/#comment-21859</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Usman Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am an MBA. i have got job right upon completion of MBA. thank god i am doing well.  MBA is an excellent course about planning, communication, managing the problems and much more. i totally disagree that MBA is useless. it entirely depends upon what you learnt during your MBA and its right application in practical environment. MBA is best courseline teaches you about managment. there is none other than managment sciences carrying so much vastness &#039;everone on earth wherever, whoever is managing the things moving around him/her in various ways.... &#039;corrctly managing the things around you is the only key to success&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am an MBA. i have got job right upon completion of MBA. thank god i am doing well.  MBA is an excellent course about planning, communication, managing the problems and much more. i totally disagree that MBA is useless. it entirely depends upon what you learnt during your MBA and its right application in practical environment. MBA is best courseline teaches you about managment. there is none other than managment sciences carrying so much vastness &#8216;everone on earth wherever, whoever is managing the things moving around him/her in various ways&#8230;. &#8216;corrctly managing the things around you is the only key to success&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Shaba</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/mbas-graduate-degrees-not-always-worth-it/#comment-21205</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I earned my MBA immediately after finishing my BA in English. At the time it seemed like the right thing to do for a few reasons.
#1) I had graduated a year early having just ditched my second major and was at a loss for a &quot;plan.&quot;
#2) It was basically free through a luckily landed GA in the school&#039;s marketing department. (I think I ended up breaking even with tuition remission and a yearly stipend)

I really enjoyed both the experience I had working in the university&#039;s marketing department and in my class work in general. I had hoped that future employers would see my graduate degree as a sound business decision and not an attempt to prolong the real world.

Now I count myself lucky just to have a job, but it&#039;s not within my field or well paid. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn&#039;t have just entered the job market as an English major. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d be in any better shape, especially with the way the economy went.

At least I have a little piece of paper and letters after my name that might one day be of some use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I earned my MBA immediately after finishing my BA in English. At the time it seemed like the right thing to do for a few reasons.<br />
#1) I had graduated a year early having just ditched my second major and was at a loss for a &#8220;plan.&#8221;<br />
#2) It was basically free through a luckily landed GA in the school&#8217;s marketing department. (I think I ended up breaking even with tuition remission and a yearly stipend)</p>
<p>I really enjoyed both the experience I had working in the university&#8217;s marketing department and in my class work in general. I had hoped that future employers would see my graduate degree as a sound business decision and not an attempt to prolong the real world.</p>
<p>Now I count myself lucky just to have a job, but it&#8217;s not within my field or well paid. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn&#8217;t have just entered the job market as an English major. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d be in any better shape, especially with the way the economy went.</p>
<p>At least I have a little piece of paper and letters after my name that might one day be of some use.</p>
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		<title>By: K-</title>
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		<dc:creator>K-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do go back to get any graduate degree, I think it has to be with a traditional state school (or better) that specializes in undergraduate -in person- degrees. 
I graduated from a California State University with my BA, and I returned to that same school to get my MS online. 
The fact that I&#039;m getting this degree online needn&#039;t ever be known. It&#039;s driving distance from where I live.

I just couldn&#039;t attend class and work--it was just too difficult. Half the time I couldn&#039;t even take classes I needed as a traditional MS candidate. So I selected a different MS online and am completing it now. 
I&#039;m half-way through.

What I would do first when browsing schools is type the name of the school +&quot;diploma mill&quot; into google. If too many hits come up, I would scratch it, because if I were looking over a resume, that&#039;s the first thing I&#039;d do with the final candidates.

I&#039;m not getting an MBA. Instead, I&#039;m purusing an MS in Engineering Management which is similar, I guess, but obviously more geared toward the sciences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do go back to get any graduate degree, I think it has to be with a traditional state school (or better) that specializes in undergraduate -in person- degrees.<br />
I graduated from a California State University with my BA, and I returned to that same school to get my MS online.<br />
The fact that I&#8217;m getting this degree online needn&#8217;t ever be known. It&#8217;s driving distance from where I live.</p>
<p>I just couldn&#8217;t attend class and work&#8211;it was just too difficult. Half the time I couldn&#8217;t even take classes I needed as a traditional MS candidate. So I selected a different MS online and am completing it now.<br />
I&#8217;m half-way through.</p>
<p>What I would do first when browsing schools is type the name of the school +&#8221;diploma mill&#8221; into google. If too many hits come up, I would scratch it, because if I were looking over a resume, that&#8217;s the first thing I&#8217;d do with the final candidates.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not getting an MBA. Instead, I&#8217;m purusing an MS in Engineering Management which is similar, I guess, but obviously more geared toward the sciences.</p>
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		<title>By: HRBabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>HRBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think everyone *has* to obtain an MBA or even an undergrad degree - different strokes for different folks, right?  If you are an electrician, what good is an advanced degree going to do for you?  Personally, I waited 6 years after graduating from undergrad to obtain my MBA and I&#039;m glad I had applicable experience.  I have friends who are successful entrepreneurs, make more money than both me and my husband put together, and they just attended the &quot;school of hard knocks.&quot;  When they found out I was graduating, they did sass me a lot, by saying things like I would, &quot;single-handedly fix the economy.&quot;  But they tend snub anyone who has a degree.  Honestly, though, I did it for several reasons:

- It&#039;s something I&#039;ve always wanted to do.  Even when I was in high school, I always envisioned myself getting a Masters.  
- I&#039;ve always heard that if you do what you love, the money will come.  If you saw my current salary, you&#039;d know that I&#039;m underemployed and *so* not chasing the money.
- I did this for ME.  I haven&#039;t been married for 2 years yet, so if I were to get widowed or even divorced tomorrow, I have to be able to support myself.  Experience helps, but it makes *me* feel better knowing I have an MBA to back up my experience. 
- I completed all my electives for my MBA, with the exception of 2 classes, in HR.  Which means that because I have 18 hours in my &quot;core concentration&quot; I can teach HR at the collegiate level.  Just another door for me.
- I went from working in Healthcare Administration and Medical Insurance to HR Outsourcing, so the MBA has assisted in solidifying my HR and global outsourcing knowledge.
- I attended an MBA program that offered online classes (though, I did the majority of my classes on-site because I hate online classes.)  And yes, I absolutely agree that there are people who obtain their MBAs from these &quot;degree mills&quot; and do not at all deserve them.  But it really boils down to the individual and how that person approaches learning.  I was more focused on learning than I ever was in undergrad; I worked 40+ hours a week, maintained a household, was a newlywed, and earned a 3.8 GPA.
- My department just went through a round of layoffs (17 to 9 people).  I recently learned that the people who remain all have degrees.  So at least for me, the undergrad and MBA saved my job.

Again, not for everyone... but I know for me, it was really hard, but I&#039;ve enjoyed (most) every minute of the ride.  I don&#039;t expect to be CEO or be promoted tomorrow.  But for me it&#039;s just another check marked off of my life&#039;s &quot;to do&quot; list.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think everyone *has* to obtain an MBA or even an undergrad degree &#8211; different strokes for different folks, right?  If you are an electrician, what good is an advanced degree going to do for you?  Personally, I waited 6 years after graduating from undergrad to obtain my MBA and I&#8217;m glad I had applicable experience.  I have friends who are successful entrepreneurs, make more money than both me and my husband put together, and they just attended the &#8220;school of hard knocks.&#8221;  When they found out I was graduating, they did sass me a lot, by saying things like I would, &#8220;single-handedly fix the economy.&#8221;  But they tend snub anyone who has a degree.  Honestly, though, I did it for several reasons:</p>
<p>- It&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve always wanted to do.  Even when I was in high school, I always envisioned myself getting a Masters.<br />
- I&#8217;ve always heard that if you do what you love, the money will come.  If you saw my current salary, you&#8217;d know that I&#8217;m underemployed and *so* not chasing the money.<br />
- I did this for ME.  I haven&#8217;t been married for 2 years yet, so if I were to get widowed or even divorced tomorrow, I have to be able to support myself.  Experience helps, but it makes *me* feel better knowing I have an MBA to back up my experience.<br />
- I completed all my electives for my MBA, with the exception of 2 classes, in HR.  Which means that because I have 18 hours in my &#8220;core concentration&#8221; I can teach HR at the collegiate level.  Just another door for me.<br />
- I went from working in Healthcare Administration and Medical Insurance to HR Outsourcing, so the MBA has assisted in solidifying my HR and global outsourcing knowledge.<br />
- I attended an MBA program that offered online classes (though, I did the majority of my classes on-site because I hate online classes.)  And yes, I absolutely agree that there are people who obtain their MBAs from these &#8220;degree mills&#8221; and do not at all deserve them.  But it really boils down to the individual and how that person approaches learning.  I was more focused on learning than I ever was in undergrad; I worked 40+ hours a week, maintained a household, was a newlywed, and earned a 3.8 GPA.<br />
- My department just went through a round of layoffs (17 to 9 people).  I recently learned that the people who remain all have degrees.  So at least for me, the undergrad and MBA saved my job.</p>
<p>Again, not for everyone&#8230; but I know for me, it was really hard, but I&#8217;ve enjoyed (most) every minute of the ride.  I don&#8217;t expect to be CEO or be promoted tomorrow.  But for me it&#8217;s just another check marked off of my life&#8217;s &#8220;to do&#8221; list.  <img src='http://punkrockhr.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@

@money will do!</description>
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<p>@money will do!</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/mbas-graduate-degrees-not-always-worth-it/#comment-13279</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, nicely, succinctly said.  That really sums it up.  I don&#039;t have an MBA but I&#039;d be interested in talking to people more in-depth who do (please email me!) for an article I&#039;m writing.  It seems to me the MBA is all about networking.  I wrote a similar article on grad school in general.   Basically I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it to &quot;go back to school&quot; just because you think (from the media) that the economy will be bad for another 2 years.  That&#039;s an extremely derivative reason and you might be in for a shock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, nicely, succinctly said.  That really sums it up.  I don&#8217;t have an MBA but I&#8217;d be interested in talking to people more in-depth who do (please email me!) for an article I&#8217;m writing.  It seems to me the MBA is all about networking.  I wrote a similar article on grad school in general.   Basically I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it to &#8220;go back to school&#8221; just because you think (from the media) that the economy will be bad for another 2 years.  That&#8217;s an extremely derivative reason and you might be in for a shock.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexy</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/mbas-graduate-degrees-not-always-worth-it/#comment-13188</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie, I failed Accounting twice the first time I went to school, and Statistics. This time I&#039;m getting A&#039;s... I think the primary reason is that I stepped out of the mindset that I had from childhood that math=something I can&#039;t do. I don&#039;t know how I did that... if I did I could probably write a motivational book and make lot&#039;s of money, but I did and it&#039;s made a world of difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie, I failed Accounting twice the first time I went to school, and Statistics. This time I&#8217;m getting A&#8217;s&#8230; I think the primary reason is that I stepped out of the mindset that I had from childhood that math=something I can&#8217;t do. I don&#8217;t know how I did that&#8230; if I did I could probably write a motivational book and make lot&#8217;s of money, but I did and it&#8217;s made a world of difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sid I think some online universities can be valid and credible. It&#039;s kind of a wild west situation, right now. This is why Jack Welch is swooping in and trying to make some money out of the chaos.

@Nelking I mean it.

@Lexy Wow, I really admire you. Sometimes I think about taking a refresher math course, but it makes my brain hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sid I think some online universities can be valid and credible. It&#8217;s kind of a wild west situation, right now. This is why Jack Welch is swooping in and trying to make some money out of the chaos.</p>
<p>@Nelking I mean it.</p>
<p>@Lexy Wow, I really admire you. Sometimes I think about taking a refresher math course, but it makes my brain hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure there&#039;s many good reasons to get an MBA... personally everyone I know who has gotten one has been a schmuck, but my sample size (i.e. friends) might have an over-representation of schmucks.

Personally, I&#039;m going back to undergrad to get a BS in Accounting... it&#039;s something I find interesting, it&#039;s super useful and I&#039;m paying a lot less than I would for a Masters program. Will it help me get a job? I don&#039;t know but it is already helping me understand aspects of my work environment I was never comfortable with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s many good reasons to get an MBA&#8230; personally everyone I know who has gotten one has been a schmuck, but my sample size (i.e. friends) might have an over-representation of schmucks.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m going back to undergrad to get a BS in Accounting&#8230; it&#8217;s something I find interesting, it&#8217;s super useful and I&#8217;m paying a lot less than I would for a Masters program. Will it help me get a job? I don&#8217;t know but it is already helping me understand aspects of my work environment I was never comfortable with.</p>
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