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		<title>By: Who is a Career Expert? &#124; Punk Rock Human Resources</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-14071</link>
		<dc:creator>Who is a Career Expert? &#124; Punk Rock Human Resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had a debate about the merits of Ben Stein as a &#8216;career expert&#8216; on my blog, yesterday. There is so much bogus career advice out there. I wonder [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had a debate about the merits of Ben Stein as a &#8216;career expert&#8216; on my blog, yesterday. There is so much bogus career advice out there. I wonder [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-13834</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lance I don&#039;t always equate privilege to money, necessarily -- although the two are related and I think they&#039;re related with Ben Stein. Privilege is everything from &lt;i&gt;access&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;skin color&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;money&lt;/i&gt; and to &lt;i&gt;intelligence&lt;/i&gt;. 

To that end, I think BHO is privileged, but his American dream story is much more authentic than Ben Stein&#039;s story. Also, BHO&#039;s narrative offers a nice mix of merit &amp; hard work &amp; the acknowledgment of others (his mother, family, community). People stepped in to help him along the way and he admits it. 

For the record, Bob Dole is an American hero. I have no issues with his story, either. Ben Stein as a workplace expert? No way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lance I don&#8217;t always equate privilege to money, necessarily &#8212; although the two are related and I think they&#8217;re related with Ben Stein. Privilege is everything from <i>access</i> to <i>skin color</i> to <i>money</i> and to <i>intelligence</i>. </p>
<p>To that end, I think BHO is privileged, but his American dream story is much more authentic than Ben Stein&#8217;s story. Also, BHO&#8217;s narrative offers a nice mix of merit &#038; hard work &#038; the acknowledgment of others (his mother, family, community). People stepped in to help him along the way and he admits it. </p>
<p>For the record, Bob Dole is an American hero. I have no issues with his story, either. Ben Stein as a workplace expert? No way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-13833</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a problem with Obama selling his &quot;American Dream&quot; story though? It just seems as if privilege is more frequently being used as an excuse to discard ideas from people we don&#039;t agree with. If BHO says the exact same thing as Ben Stein or Bob Dole about the American Dream, it suddenly becomes legit because we changed his skin color and we agree with him politically? 

If the American Dream and the pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is a myth in and of itself, who cares who is saying it? Privilege doesn&#039;t come into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a problem with Obama selling his &#8220;American Dream&#8221; story though? It just seems as if privilege is more frequently being used as an excuse to discard ideas from people we don&#8217;t agree with. If BHO says the exact same thing as Ben Stein or Bob Dole about the American Dream, it suddenly becomes legit because we changed his skin color and we agree with him politically? </p>
<p>If the American Dream and the pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is a myth in and of itself, who cares who is saying it? Privilege doesn&#8217;t come into play.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-13831</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike I will not sleep until I overtake Cheez on the ranking. :) (PS - the list is good and the methodology is sound. I gave a shout out to the list because I support it. Ben Stein? Not so much.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike I will not sleep until I overtake Cheez on the ranking. <img src='http://punkrockhr.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (PS &#8211; the list is good and the methodology is sound. I gave a shout out to the list because I support it. Ben Stein? Not so much.)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael VanDervort</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-13830</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael VanDervort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t agre with all those included either, but it isn&#039;t my list ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t agre with all those included either, but it isn&#8217;t my list <img src='http://punkrockhr.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-13827</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call shenanigans on Ben Stein, not on FOT. 

I think people are trying to fashion themselves into &quot;work&quot; experts when they are really just wealthy &amp; successful in other areas of life (i.e., Jack Welch).  I really hate when privileged people mix money and work together, too (i.e., Dave Ramsey). So I guess I called shenanigans because Ben is wealthy, successful, and privileged. Malcolm Gladwell debunks the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017922&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pull yourself up by your bootstraps myth of America&lt;/a&gt;. Whenever someone tries to sell me that kind of advice (like Ben Stein) it bugs me. 

I object to Freakonomics for a more strategic &amp; scientific way of thinking about how the world works. I read Godin, begrudgingly, because I learn from him even though I disagree with the Tribes concept.

Ben Stein? No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call shenanigans on Ben Stein, not on FOT. </p>
<p>I think people are trying to fashion themselves into &#8220;work&#8221; experts when they are really just wealthy &#038; successful in other areas of life (i.e., Jack Welch).  I really hate when privileged people mix money and work together, too (i.e., Dave Ramsey). So I guess I called shenanigans because Ben is wealthy, successful, and privileged. Malcolm Gladwell debunks the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017922" rel="nofollow">pull yourself up by your bootstraps myth of America</a>. Whenever someone tries to sell me that kind of advice (like Ben Stein) it bugs me. </p>
<p>I object to Freakonomics for a more strategic &#038; scientific way of thinking about how the world works. I read Godin, begrudgingly, because I learn from him even though I disagree with the Tribes concept.</p>
<p>Ben Stein? No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: jessica lee</title>
		<link>http://punkrockhr.com/sunday-shout-outs/#comment-13826</link>
		<dc:creator>jessica lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you calling out shenanigans on Stein because he&#039;s a conservative? 

i think there can indeed be an intersection in talent management or HR or recruiting between people issues and financial issues or economics. and having stein, or godin end up in the rankings... well, that&#039;s the beauty of our process. you have a handful of us weighing on on the blogs that matter to us from a talent management perspective - and some of us infuse marketing blogs into the mix, others &quot;finance&quot; oriented blogs... because we view our work holistically.  not saying stein or godin are folks that matter to me, but just explaining the process and how folks like that end up in the rankings.

happy sunday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you calling out shenanigans on Stein because he&#8217;s a conservative? </p>
<p>i think there can indeed be an intersection in talent management or HR or recruiting between people issues and financial issues or economics. and having stein, or godin end up in the rankings&#8230; well, that&#8217;s the beauty of our process. you have a handful of us weighing on on the blogs that matter to us from a talent management perspective &#8211; and some of us infuse marketing blogs into the mix, others &#8220;finance&#8221; oriented blogs&#8230; because we view our work holistically.  not saying stein or godin are folks that matter to me, but just explaining the process and how folks like that end up in the rankings.</p>
<p>happy sunday!</p>
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